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zachary harden
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Below is a series of images of flags that have been provided to FOTW; some we have recognized, and some we have been unable to recognize. If you can help us identify any of these flags, please let us know! Contact the: UFE Editor.
Identification Key:
= Positive ID (Positive Identification)
= Tentative ID (Tentative Identification)
= Some Speculation
Image located by John King, 11 January 2023
John King sent this flag to Ted Kaye of NAVA for identification. It was forwarded to us as well to help ID this flag.
Editor, 11 January 2023
Some Speculation
Image located by Fabrizio D'Eramo, 14 February 2023
Image located by Fabrizio D'Eramo, 14 February 2023
Good morning, Do you kindly have information (nationality, era, military or civilian,...) of the attached flag? Thank you Fabrizio D'Eramo, 14 February 2023
Due to the two balls in canton, I suppose, it is a rank flag of a vice commodore of a commonwealth or US yacht club, but I have no idea, which one.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 14 February 2023
As mentioned by Klaus-Michael, the images attached are indeed
Yacht-related. Its manufacturer, "Captain O M Watts Ltd London" was established by
Oswald Martin Watts, himself a master mariner and nautical author who
worked as a ship chandler and yacht broker. Maybe you can try and
contact them directly Here's a similar flag manufactured by the same company, which, one can
infer, has the same dimensions as the one you provided: 25 x 15.5
inches (cotton made).
Esteban Rivera, 14 February 2023
Rather, it's the British system: Full field for the Commodore, one ball
for the Vice-Commodore, and two balls for the Rear Commodore. People who are not in the know, will often miscount.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 17 February 2023
Bloody right Peter Hans, thanks. Do you also know the club?
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 17 February 2023
Though this second flag posted by Esteban is indeed a London Yacht Club, it's not Captain
Watts' own City Livery Yacht Club as one might
expect, but it's instead the Royal London Yacht Club. And indeed, once again a Rear Commodore's.
The colour of the original one is a bit odd: Light blue, as if for air
ships. But no, not pictured for burgees of most of the world in the
early 1960-s. Also, not around that same time for US and Canada. (For
Canada, that is ...) I don't have complete listing there, though.
This makes you wonder whether it might be azure instead, since the
original question is from Italy. Regardless of whether we manage to
identify it, would the poster tell us a bit more. Was this found in the
proverbial Grandfather's left chest? Or do you know more of where it
came from?
But for now: I don't know. I agree with Esteban, Ask the flagmaker, they may well know the time
from the style of the label.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 17 February 2023
Image located by Joe Pugliese, 23 February 2023
Image located by Joe Pugliese, 23 February 2023
Joe Pugliese sent this flag to Ted Kaye of NAVA for identification. It was forwarded to us as well to help ID this flag.
Positive ID
Image located by William Garrison, 1 March 2023
Identified as the flag of the Hellenic Fire Service
Image from Ted Kaye, 12 January 2022
An UFE that was sent to NAVA and us; the following information was sent to us by Ted Kaye regarding the background of the flag: "The flag was found in my dad’s garage in Tucson, but it likely goes back to Minnesota. My dad grew up in Morris, MN. His dad was also from MN, and his grandfather emigrated from Luxembourg as a child in the mid to late 1800s. His mom emigrated from Moravia (then Austro-Hungary, currently Eastern Czech Republic) as a child in 1905. After my parents were married, they raised their family in Wisconsin and only moved to the southwest after the kids were out of the house and they were retired. They spent a number of years in Carlsbad, NM, before moving to Tucson, AZ. I believe the flag belonged to my dad’s parents, but it may have just been his. What is odd is that I’ve never seen this flag before and neither had my mom. It was packed in a box with a 48 star flag, which I had seen many times throughout my childhood.
Image from William Garrison, 8 March 2023
Source: about 1:34-1:35 min. at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCoVJrQCsE0
Caption: Unidentified white-field Palestinian flag. Flag image taken from a UK television program detailing the ties between "Northern Ireland" separatists (pro-Ireland reunification; anti-UK) and Palestinians seeking independence from Israel; c. 2019-2020. The Palestinian flag appears to be alongside the fly edge of this flag. I cannot identify the black-ink logo.
William Garrison, 8 March 2023
Some Speculation
Image from Michael B. Stogsdill, 19 March 2023
An acquaintance recently mentioned to me he had a flag he acquired from an estate that had a large WWI era collection. The only photo I have of the flag is the one attached to this message that was a photo of a picture on his phone (the white smudge in the center of the photo is glare from the phones screen). He mentioned the flag is roughly 5' x 8' and made of wool. It is a horizontal flag with 3 equal height horizontal stripes with the outer most stripes being olive drab in color, and the center stripe is white. It has a red cross centered vertically and horizontally slightly overlapping the OD green stripes. I have searched crwflags.com for flags relating to Templar, Maltese cross, iron cross, various German naval jacks, Portuguese, and Spanish flags, with no luck. Due to the nature of the collection, I'm assuming it was from the German Empire era, but while that is only speculation, it is obviously an old flag and not of new construction. Any help identifying this flag would be appreciated.
Michael B. Stogsdill, 19 March 2023
This cross looks like the cross used by the Swedish Order of Freemasons. The Swedish freemasons have somewhat different rules and symbols compared to freemasons in other countries. [You can see] the arms of the Swedish Order of Freemasons at the Wikimedia Commons). The red cross as a stand-alone symbol is a registered trademark for the Order.
However, I do not know what the flag Michael B. Stogsdill has stands for or if there is any connection to the Swedish Freemasons.
Elias Granqvist, 20 March 2023
Image from Stratis Andreadis, 22 March 2023
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Image from Stratis Andreadis, 22 March 2023
Forwarded from Ted Kaye to us.
