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Below is a series of images of flags that have been provided to FOTW; some we have recognized, and some we have been unable to recognize. If you can help us identify any of these flags, please let us know! Contact the: UFE Editor.

Identification Key:

= Positive ID (Positive Identification)
= Tentative ID (Tentative Identification)
= Some Speculation

Unidentified Flags on this Page:

  1. Red flag with fleurs-de-lis
  2. Possible Yacht club flag
  3. US-Unknown friendship pin
  4. Unknown Greek flag
  5. Blue flag with red key?
  6. Palestinian unidentified white-field flag
  7. Green white flag with red cross
  8. Mystery from Corfu

Unidentified Flags on other pages

23-1. Red flag with fleurs-de-lis

Image located by John King, 11 January 2023

John King sent this flag to Ted Kaye of NAVA for identification. It was forwarded to us as well to help ID this flag.
Editor, 11 January 2023

23-2. Possible Yacht club flag Some Speculation

Image located by Fabrizio D'Eramo, 14 February 2023

Image located by Fabrizio D'Eramo, 14 February 2023

Good morning, Do you kindly have information (nationality, era, military or civilian,...) of the attached flag? Thank you Fabrizio D'Eramo, 14 February 2023

Due to the two balls in canton, I suppose, it is a rank flag of a vice commodore of a commonwealth or US yacht club, but I have no idea, which one.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 14 February 2023

As mentioned by Klaus-Michael, the images attached are indeed Yacht-related. Its manufacturer, "Captain O M Watts Ltd London" was established by Oswald Martin Watts, himself a master mariner and nautical author who worked as a ship chandler and yacht broker. Maybe you can try and contact them directly Here's a similar flag manufactured by the same company, which, one can infer, has the same dimensions as the one you provided: 25 x 15.5 inches (cotton made).
Esteban Rivera, 14 February 2023

Rather, it's the British system: Full field for the Commodore, one ball for the Vice-Commodore, and two balls for the Rear Commodore. People who are not in the know, will often miscount.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 17 February 2023

Bloody right Peter Hans, thanks. Do you also know the club?
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 17 February 2023

Though this second flag posted by Esteban is indeed a London Yacht Club, it's not Captain Watts' own City Livery Yacht Club as one might expect, but it's instead the Royal London Yacht Club. And indeed, once again a Rear Commodore's. The colour of the original one is a bit odd: Light blue, as if for air ships. But no, not pictured for burgees of most of the world in the early 1960-s. Also, not around that same time for US and Canada. (For Canada, that is ...) I don't have complete listing there, though. This makes you wonder whether it might be azure instead, since the original question is from Italy. Regardless of whether we manage to identify it, would the poster tell us a bit more. Was this found in the proverbial Grandfather's left chest? Or do you know more of where it came from? But for now: I don't know. I agree with Esteban, Ask the flagmaker, they may well know the time from the style of the label.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 17 February 2023

23-3 US-Unknown friendship pin

Image located by Joe Pugliese, 23 February 2023

Image located by Joe Pugliese, 23 February 2023

Joe Pugliese sent this flag to Ted Kaye of NAVA for identification. It was forwarded to us as well to help ID this flag.

23-4. White Greek flag Positive ID

Image located by William Garrison, 1 March 2023

Identified as the flag of the Hellenic Fire Service

23-5. Blue flag with red key?

Image from Ted Kaye, 12 January 2022

An UFE that was sent to NAVA and us; the following information was sent to us by Ted Kaye regarding the background of the flag: "The flag was found in my dad’s garage in Tucson, but it likely goes back to Minnesota. My dad grew up in Morris, MN. His dad was also from MN, and his grandfather emigrated from Luxembourg as a child in the mid to late 1800s. His mom emigrated from Moravia (then Austro-Hungary, currently Eastern Czech Republic) as a child in 1905. After my parents were married, they raised their family in Wisconsin and only moved to the southwest after the kids were out of the house and they were retired. They spent a number of years in Carlsbad, NM, before moving to Tucson, AZ. I believe the flag belonged to my dad’s parents, but it may have just been his. What is odd is that I’ve never seen this flag before and neither had my mom. It was packed in a box with a 48 star flag, which I had seen many times throughout my childhood.

23-6. Palestinian unidentified white-field flag

Image from William Garrison, 8 March 2023

Source: about 1:34-1:35 min. at Caption: Unidentified white-field Palestinian flag. Flag image taken from a UK television program detailing the ties between "Northern Ireland" separatists (pro-Ireland reunification; anti-UK) and Palestinians seeking independence from Israel; c. 2019-2020. The Palestinian flag appears to be alongside the fly edge of this flag. I cannot identify the black-ink logo.
William Garrison, 8 March 2023

23-7. Green white flag with red cross Some Speculation

Image from Michael B. Stogsdill, 19 March 2023

An acquaintance recently mentioned to me he had a flag he acquired from an estate that had a large WWI era collection. The only photo I have of the flag is the one attached to this message that was a photo of a picture on his phone (the white smudge in the center of the photo is glare from the phones screen). He mentioned the flag is roughly 5' x 8' and made of wool. It is a horizontal flag with 3 equal height horizontal stripes with the outer most stripes being olive drab in color, and the center stripe is white. It has a red cross centered vertically and horizontally slightly overlapping the OD green stripes. I have searched for flags relating to Templar, Maltese cross, iron cross, various German naval jacks, Portuguese, and Spanish flags, with no luck. Due to the nature of the collection, I'm assuming it was from the German Empire era, but while that is only speculation, it is obviously an old flag and not of new construction. Any help identifying this flag would be appreciated.
Michael B. Stogsdill, 19 March 2023

This cross looks like the cross used by the Swedish Order of Freemasons. The Swedish freemasons have somewhat different rules and symbols compared to freemasons in other countries. [You can see] the arms of the Swedish Order of Freemasons at the Wikimedia Commons). The red cross as a stand-alone symbol is a registered trademark for the Order. However, I do not know what the flag Michael B. Stogsdill has stands for or if there is any connection to the Swedish Freemasons.
Elias Granqvist, 20 March 2023

23-8. Mystery from Corfu

Image from Stratis Andreadis, 22 March 2023

Image from Stratis Andreadis, 22 March 2023

Forwarded from Ted Kaye to us.

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